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		<title>By: Bjorn</title>
		<link>http://jennyzhu.com/2009/07/09/chinas-ethnic-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-15531</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a complex issue. Based on similar situations elsewhere, autonomy usually lies at the heart of the issue as it allows the region to be governed largely by local people, for local people, while still belonging to a larger entity (the country) as well. This is important as it strongly relates to education, official language policies, religion, etc. 

Aceh in Indonesia, for example, seems to be doing better since Jakarta implemented some meaningful autonomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a complex issue. Based on similar situations elsewhere, autonomy usually lies at the heart of the issue as it allows the region to be governed largely by local people, for local people, while still belonging to a larger entity (the country) as well. This is important as it strongly relates to education, official language policies, religion, etc. </p>
<p>Aceh in Indonesia, for example, seems to be doing better since Jakarta implemented some meaningful autonomy.</p>
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		<title>By: iain</title>
		<link>http://jennyzhu.com/2009/07/09/chinas-ethnic-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-7262</link>
		<dc:creator>iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is interesting:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinaelections.net/NewsInfo.asp?NewsID=20453&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Riots in Xinjiang point to a new dimension to ethnic conflict in China&lt;/a&gt;

It suggests that economic policy rather than ethnic policy may be the root cause of conflict.

Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chinaelections.net/NewsInfo.asp?NewsID=20453" rel="nofollow">Riots in Xinjiang point to a new dimension to ethnic conflict in China</a></p>
<p>It suggests that economic policy rather than ethnic policy may be the root cause of conflict.</p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@prez life,
I think socio-economic inequality is definitely a key factor. And top that with limited religious freedom, the anger is elevated all the more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@prez life,<br />
I think socio-economic inequality is definitely a key factor. And top that with limited religious freedom, the anger is elevated all the more.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Zhu</title>
		<link>http://jennyzhu.com/2009/07/09/chinas-ethnic-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-7196</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chang,
Very insightful reply. We all hope the events will lead to some rethinking in Beijing. But maybe that&#039;s not likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chang,<br />
Very insightful reply. We all hope the events will lead to some rethinking in Beijing. But maybe that&#8217;s not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Chang</title>
		<link>http://jennyzhu.com/2009/07/09/chinas-ethnic-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-7185</link>
		<dc:creator>Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good blog, but I have several points of disagreement.

&quot;Xin/jiang has received many favorable policies in economic development, education and employment&quot;
--Sure, but whether the policies are evenly distributed among residents of Xinjiang is another issue. Most of the financial benefits are concentrated in Urumqi, where over 70 percent of residents are Han. However, I admit, the issue of fairness of financial/development policies is prominent in many parts of China.
--benefits such as regional government, economic development, and gas pipelines/other energy development, again, are run by Han (as stated in the article you read: 中共在新疆扶持许多维族干部，但“一把手”仍然由汉人主政). Though being run by Han does not mean the benefits are for only Han, it does show that Uyghurs are disproportionately absent from political positions in the region.

While &quot;majority of Uighurs are financially better off than in the past,&quot; the proportion of improvement in financial conditions between the Uyghurs and Han Chinese is very skewed. The overwhelming majority of Uyghurs are still poor. You can see Tyler Christian&#039;s book for specific statistics on the financial conditions of Uyghurs.

Regarding employment, while what you described may be true in some cases, I believe the overwhelming majority of places, regardless of what&#039;s stipulated in law, do not hire Uyghurs (or other ethnic minorities) because they do not want events like Shaoguan to happen. They are afraid that once they extend jobs to ethnic minorities, they will group together, misconstrue events/perceptions/words/conversations/etc, and end up clashing with others. This is true even among Han, where in they do not want to hire too many from the same village to prevent clashes between groups from different villages. While this is unfortunate, I am confident that this line of thinking is true amongst factory owners.

Additionally, I do not believe the affirmative action for Uyghurs will &quot;create a culture where Uighurs do not work as hard because their job is secured by the favorable policy.&quot; If Uyghurs don&#039;t work, the boss would have no problem replacing him with another Uyghur or someone else willing to do the job. For every lazy Uyghur worker, there are 10 willing ones.

Is your argument that the Uyghurs are upset because of the restriction on religion? While that is part of the problem, I believe it has equally as much (if not more) to do with grievances on social, cultural, educational, and economic factors as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good blog, but I have several points of disagreement.</p>
<p>&#8220;Xin/jiang has received many favorable policies in economic development, education and employment&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Sure, but whether the policies are evenly distributed among residents of Xinjiang is another issue. Most of the financial benefits are concentrated in Urumqi, where over 70 percent of residents are Han. However, I admit, the issue of fairness of financial/development policies is prominent in many parts of China.<br />
&#8211;benefits such as regional government, economic development, and gas pipelines/other energy development, again, are run by Han (as stated in the article you read: 中共在新疆扶持许多维族干部，但“一把手”仍然由汉人主政). Though being run by Han does not mean the benefits are for only Han, it does show that Uyghurs are disproportionately absent from political positions in the region.</p>
<p>While &#8220;majority of Uighurs are financially better off than in the past,&#8221; the proportion of improvement in financial conditions between the Uyghurs and Han Chinese is very skewed. The overwhelming majority of Uyghurs are still poor. You can see Tyler Christian&#8217;s book for specific statistics on the financial conditions of Uyghurs.</p>
<p>Regarding employment, while what you described may be true in some cases, I believe the overwhelming majority of places, regardless of what&#8217;s stipulated in law, do not hire Uyghurs (or other ethnic minorities) because they do not want events like Shaoguan to happen. They are afraid that once they extend jobs to ethnic minorities, they will group together, misconstrue events/perceptions/words/conversations/etc, and end up clashing with others. This is true even among Han, where in they do not want to hire too many from the same village to prevent clashes between groups from different villages. While this is unfortunate, I am confident that this line of thinking is true amongst factory owners.</p>
<p>Additionally, I do not believe the affirmative action for Uyghurs will &#8220;create a culture where Uighurs do not work as hard because their job is secured by the favorable policy.&#8221; If Uyghurs don&#8217;t work, the boss would have no problem replacing him with another Uyghur or someone else willing to do the job. For every lazy Uyghur worker, there are 10 willing ones.</p>
<p>Is your argument that the Uyghurs are upset because of the restriction on religion? While that is part of the problem, I believe it has equally as much (if not more) to do with grievances on social, cultural, educational, and economic factors as well.</p>
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		<title>By: art</title>
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		<dc:creator>art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia adapt more than one religion as their own in the hopes that such religious diversification will result in blessings in fortune. I know a few Chinese in the Philippines who are both Catholic and Buddhist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia adapt more than one religion as their own in the hopes that such religious diversification will result in blessings in fortune. I know a few Chinese in the Philippines who are both Catholic and Buddhist.</p>
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		<title>By: Prez Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prez Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A third dynamic (still ahead of religion, I think) is  colonialism.  For hundreds/thousands of years colonialism was a common strategy and practice.  But, over the last seventy years it has mostly disappeared.  Defeat of Japan in WWII, break-up of the Soviet Union, independence for European colonies in Africa, independence of the Phillipines from the US, etc.  The exception is China.  It is the last major colonial power.  Tibet and Turkestan/Xinjiang are two of its largest colonial holdings.  It has become hard to maintain and control colonies in the world today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A third dynamic (still ahead of religion, I think) is  colonialism.  For hundreds/thousands of years colonialism was a common strategy and practice.  But, over the last seventy years it has mostly disappeared.  Defeat of Japan in WWII, break-up of the Soviet Union, independence for European colonies in Africa, independence of the Phillipines from the US, etc.  The exception is China.  It is the last major colonial power.  Tibet and Turkestan/Xinjiang are two of its largest colonial holdings.  It has become hard to maintain and control colonies in the world today.</p>
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		<title>By: Prez Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prez Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also probably doesn&#039;t help that Tibet and Xinjiang are ruled by old, Han Chinese men.  And, they are policed primarily by Han Chinese forces.  Similar to largely-minority US cities that had predominately white mayors and police forces a few decades ago.  They also experienced race riots at the time.  Now, most such cities in the US are governed by mayors and public service agencies (police, fire, etc), who look much more like the citizens who live there.  Doesn&#039;t solve all the problems, but it helps temper them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also probably doesn&#8217;t help that Tibet and Xinjiang are ruled by old, Han Chinese men.  And, they are policed primarily by Han Chinese forces.  Similar to largely-minority US cities that had predominately white mayors and police forces a few decades ago.  They also experienced race riots at the time.  Now, most such cities in the US are governed by mayors and public service agencies (police, fire, etc), who look much more like the citizens who live there.  Doesn&#8217;t solve all the problems, but it helps temper them.</p>
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		<title>By: Prez Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prez Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe religion has much to do with it.  It is well documented that people are innately hyper-sensitive to income/wealth/status disparities.  They are much more sensitive to differences than to absolute levels.  Sociologists and economists have heavily studied this phenonomenon.

Take two corporate CEOs.  The one who gets paid $4.0M per year will be livid if he finds out the CEO at a competing company earns $4.2M.  He will complain about how unfair the situation is, and will demand to be paid at least as much as the other.

Most people are generally satisfied with whatever their status is, if everyone else around them is also at the same level.  But, if they see their neighbor rise to a higher level, they will no longer be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe religion has much to do with it.  It is well documented that people are innately hyper-sensitive to income/wealth/status disparities.  They are much more sensitive to differences than to absolute levels.  Sociologists and economists have heavily studied this phenonomenon.</p>
<p>Take two corporate CEOs.  The one who gets paid $4.0M per year will be livid if he finds out the CEO at a competing company earns $4.2M.  He will complain about how unfair the situation is, and will demand to be paid at least as much as the other.</p>
<p>Most people are generally satisfied with whatever their status is, if everyone else around them is also at the same level.  But, if they see their neighbor rise to a higher level, they will no longer be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If money and economic development is everything then the people in Xinjiang would be happy.

Seems like money and economic development isn&#039;t everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If money and economic development is everything then the people in Xinjiang would be happy.</p>
<p>Seems like money and economic development isn&#8217;t everything.</p>
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