Comments on: China Internet Users Mourns and Applauds Google http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/ A voice from China Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:59:24 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Angelique Sanders http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-14969 Angelique Sanders Tue, 04 May 2010 23:25:16 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-14969 As an American, I frequently feel embarrassed that my country decides it knows best how everyone's government should function. I think it's worse when big business steps in and does the same. If a father decides to discipline his son, that's one thing; if a father decides to discipline someone else's son, is the issue really whether or not he's right, or is it whether or not he has the right? As an American, I frequently feel embarrassed that my country decides it knows best how everyone’s government should function. I think it’s worse when big business steps in and does the same. If a father decides to discipline his son, that’s one thing; if a father decides to discipline someone else’s son, is the issue really whether or not he’s right, or is it whether or not he has the right?

]]> By: Justin http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-14257 Justin Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:40:15 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-14257 I'm sorry why is that list specific to "google readers...the most cosmopolitan and enlightened people in the country" as opposed to just regular internet users? I think actually think google was pretty disingenuous in this pullout. Most business people/analysts in Canada think google pullout because it wasn't going to dominate enough marketshare to make staying in china long term profitable and because grabbed the moral highground at the price of burning its bridges in China. I’m sorry why is that list specific to “google readers…the most cosmopolitan and enlightened people in the country” as opposed to just regular internet users?

I think actually think google was pretty disingenuous in this pullout. Most business people/analysts in Canada think google pullout because it wasn’t going to dominate enough marketshare to make staying in china long term profitable and because grabbed the moral highground at the price of burning its bridges in China.

]]> By: Carole http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-13748 Carole Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:59:50 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-13748 Great post Jenny! I am also on Google side. It might hurt Chinese internet users on the short term (blocking of google.com and other google services to be expected) but at least someone stand up in front of the Chinese government and raise the issue of censorship. People have now to talk about it and take position. Hopefully this is the first step for a slow but positive change (for Chinese government or for international companies who compromise their values over business) btw, google close yesterday google.cn read this http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/technology/23google.html?ref=technology Great post Jenny!

I am also on Google side. It might hurt Chinese internet users on the short term (blocking of google.com and other google services to be expected) but at least someone stand up in front of the Chinese government and raise the issue of censorship.
People have now to talk about it and take position.

Hopefully this is the first step for a slow but positive change (for Chinese government or for international companies who compromise their values over business)

btw, google close yesterday google.cn
read this http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/technology/23google.html?ref=technology

]]> By: Howard http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-13286 Howard Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:59:40 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-13286 I wouldn't necessarily assume that Google's stance with China is little more than a business decision in a market that isn't profitable right now and, looking forward will likely cause more problems than profits. Google took a lot of flack when they agreed to the censorship and privacy concerns of the Chinese government as it went directly against the corporate motto of "Do no evil". Their "about-face" is probably a slight recall of their company's supposed-values but is much more about $ and RMB. See this article for more. http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/13/google.china.analysis/index.html I wouldn’t necessarily assume that Google’s stance with China is little more than a business decision in a market that isn’t profitable right now and, looking forward will likely cause more problems than profits. Google took a lot of flack when they agreed to the censorship and privacy concerns of the Chinese government as it went directly against the corporate motto of “Do no evil”. Their “about-face” is probably a slight recall of their company’s supposed-values but is much more about $ and RMB. See this article for more.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/13/google.china.analysis/index.html

]]> By: Aaron http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-12365 Aaron Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:16:13 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-12365 Hi, I was wondering why my previous post was removed. Hi, I was wondering why my previous post was removed.

]]> By: Dakamz http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-12363 Dakamz Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:21:53 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-12363 Likewise. I truly admire Google executives' courage to do such. Hopefully, it will bring forth sizable changes into China. It's a good initiative to encourage more free thinkers and more of those who look beyond what's outside the box. Likewise. I truly admire Google executives’ courage to do such. Hopefully, it will bring forth sizable changes into China. It’s a good initiative to encourage more free thinkers and more of those who look beyond what’s outside the box.

]]> By: John Palmer http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-11887 John Palmer Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:55:43 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-11887 Yes, let us hope that everything ends up with a positive result. I am very hopeful, especially because of those who voice their concerns. Only through open dialogue can we hope to learn and make the world a better place. China is growing by leaps and bounds. I just read a story about how real estate may be an area of concern. http://www.cnbc.com/id/35056774 Over 6 months ago, this site discussed similiar concerns voiced by Andy Hie on July 23. jennyzhu.com is a very forward looking source of information and I will add it to my list of "must read" sites! Yes, let us hope that everything ends up with a positive result.
I am very hopeful, especially because of those who voice their concerns. Only through open dialogue can we hope to learn and make the world a better place.

China is growing by leaps and bounds. I just read a story about how real estate may be an area of concern.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35056774

Over 6 months ago, this site discussed similiar concerns voiced by Andy Hie on July 23.

 jennyzhu.com is a very forward looking source of information and I will add it to my list of “must read” sites!

]]> By: Jordan http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-11582 Jordan Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:53:38 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-11582 Your article is very encouraging, Jenny. It's nice to have some insight into the minds of younger Chinese. Your article is very encouraging, Jenny. It’s nice to have some insight into the minds of younger Chinese.

]]> By: tom wilber http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-11436 tom wilber Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:24:10 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-11436 Let's all hope that this ends up with a positive result. I am hopeful. Let’s all hope that this ends up with a positive result. I am hopeful.

]]> By: aron http://jennyzhu.com/2010/01/14/china-internet-users-mourns-and-applauds-google/comment-page-1/#comment-11380 aron Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:14:34 +0000 http://jennyzhu.com/?p=346#comment-11380 It seems that Google is doing something that Americans have historically done well... activating a conflict between two parties and watching tensions boil over. Many/most Chinese people, as explained in the message to which I am responding are passive in terms of challenging the government because of the stress involved. This, in Chinese culture is understandable. The Chinese government is not going to demolish its face and adjust policy. This also, in Chinese culture, is understandable. Google is now contributing to international conflict... in the end, hopefully the Chinese public will not be too adversely affected. It seems that Google is doing something that Americans have historically done well… activating a conflict between two parties and watching tensions boil over.

Many/most Chinese people, as explained in the message to which I am responding are passive in terms of challenging the government because of the stress involved. This, in Chinese culture is understandable.

The Chinese government is not going to demolish its face and adjust policy. This also, in Chinese culture, is understandable.

Google is now contributing to international conflict… in the end, hopefully the Chinese public will not be too adversely affected.

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