Jenny’s Guide to Finding a good Ayi in Shanghai

Jenny Zhu Posted in China, life, Shanghai,Tags: ,
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One of the major benefits of living in China is the readily available pool of affordable help. They are mostly women of all ages coming from rural China in search of a better life in cities. Many middle class Chinese families and expat families in Shanghai rely on their ayi (阿姨/āyí) to clean their house, cook their food, wash their clothes and raise their kids. My life would be radically different without the help of 2 great ayis. One is a 钟点工(zhōngdiǎngōng), who comes in for 4 hours everyday to do household chores including cooking. The other is a live-in nanny who helps take care of my 1-year-old son.

Finding the right ayi can often be an ordeal for both Chinese and foreigners alike. Of course much more so for foreigners. I’ve heard many stories of expats paying US rates to their ayis in Shanghai. So I want to share some tips on where to find an ayi, how much you should pay and how to manage and work with them.

1. Where can you find an ayi?

There are plenty of 保姆介绍所(bǎomǔ jièshàosuǒ) or ayi agencies in Shanghai, mostly nestled in the cheap end of residential areas.  Look for 6-story housing projects or a local wet market, you are likely to find an agency nearby.  You can find all types of ayis, hourly ones, live-in child caretaker, live-in elderly caretaker and even one to clean your office.

You can also find ayi’s online on sites such as 58.com or baixing.com.   Many agencies now list their ayi’s online. But some of these tech savvy agencies or individual ayi’s might charge you a higher premium, which brings us to the next point.

2. How much does an ayi cost?

Costs vary depending on the type of work they do and the type of arrangements you make, e.g. if you employ someone for 2 weeks or come in for a few hours per week, the rates will be higher than someone who comes more frequently. 

  • Hourly based (钟点工/zhōngdiǎngōng): this is the most common type of ayi. They come in for several hours everyday to do household chores. As inflation soars in China, the wages of lower end labor has increased significantly in the past year. Last year, the average salary of an hourly based ayi was around RMB12/hour. But this year, it’s at RMB15.  The type of ayi who also cooks and cooks well could command an even higher salary to around RMB 20. My ayi who cooks for us gets RMB1700 for 4 hours everyday from Monday to Saturday.  But some ayi’s who have worked for you for a few years and are in good terms with you might work for less. (The ayi who has worked for my parents for 10 years is working for RMB12/hour because she gets along with them very well). And if you are just looking for someone very short term or come in for a few hours every week, you could be paying around RMB20-25/hour.
  • Live-in child caretaker: this is a highly sought after type of ayi as many Chinese parents both work and it requires more skills and experience than someone who just cleans.  I have been very blessed with the nanny situation. My nanny, Xiao Wang was the first nanny I hired and she has been working for almost a year now. When she started in February this year, she asked for RMB2500/month. 5 months onwards, the market price has risen to about RMB2800 to RMB3000. So I gave her a raise. And next year, she will be getting RMB3200 because this is what the market price is. So I’d say anything between RMB3000-3500 is a reasonable number in Shanghai now. If you have more than one young kind, expect to pay around RMB5000. But sometimes the nanny would refuse higher rate and insist on you hiring a second nanny.  I have to say though live-in nannies are no easy feat. They practically work 24/6 tending to your child and help with minor household work. (Usually they take a day off each week).
3. Job Responsibilities
This is a crucial issue to clarify with your nanny at the very beginning. The convention in China is that ayi’s are specialized. So the hourly based ones just clean and cook. The live-in nannies just take care of kids. If you ask one to do the other type of work, they are likely to refuse. My nanny made it abundantly clear that she would’t clean and cook, because they were not part of her responsibilities.  And in the case of a small child, I doubt she would find the time to do those anyway. However, if your kids are older, aka. started going to preschool, some nannies transition their role to help you with more household work. There are more versatile type of ayi’s who multi-task. But those are slightly harder to find and they charge more (cheaper than to hire 2 though).
4. Age, experience and personality
From my experience, the hourly based ayi’s tend to be middle aged (40 and above). While the more experience the better, there’s no need to be over-obsessed with experience because it’s relatively easy to learn how to mop and vacuum. Live-in child caring nannies tend to be younger as the job requires more energy and a higher level of education. I also found that it is much easier to communicate with a younger ayi (my live-in nanny is 30) because they tend to be more open-minded, plugged into the world and more confident. My nanny loves eating pasta and has worked in Thailand. Another great benefit is that younger nannies tend to communicate with your kids better. My nanny treats my son almost like a buddy. When it comes to personality, it’s safer to go with someone not overly enthusiastic and confident. My mom once hired an ayi who was extremely affable and talkative at the interview. But 2 months into the job, she wanted a raise and threatened quitting.
4. Raises and Bonuses:
There was a time when wages stayed flat for 2 or 3 years for ayi’s. But not lately. The rising cost of living in China makes a compelling case for a raise. My experience is that ayi’s won’t be shy of asking for raises unless they’ve worked for you for many years. But often Chinese ayi’s raise request could come in the form of resignation. Don’t take it too literally or as an offence. It’s often their awkward way of asking for more money. Should you give it to them? Usually if you are paying the benchmarks I’ve given, it’s fine for at least 6 months to a year. And if an ayi asks for a raise within 6 months of employment,  you have to find a compelling enough reason such as the market price is rising or she has done an amazing job (but even the latter doesn’t qualify for a raise so soon).
In general, you should give your ayi some bonus over Chinese New Year. If she’s only been with you for a few months, RMB200 would be fine. If she’s been with you longer and does an amazing job, you could max it out to an extra month’s salary. But that’s rare and not expected. I also give my live-in nanny a small bonus (RMB100) on Mid-Autumn Festival and Children’s Day (to buy gift for her daughter).
I’d also suggest giving your ayi’s some small gifts such as your hand-me downs if they are in good condition.
5. English skills:
This is an area that I don’t have experience in. But obviously ayi’s who can speak or understand some English or operate Western appliances and cook Western food could justifiably charge a premium. But I feel it should not be more than double of the rates mentioned earlier.  
6. What if your ayi quits?
Understand the cause. Is it about money, workload, distance or personal circumstances? If it’s about money, keep it fair based on the market price. And should your ayi quits,  don’t panic. It’s relatively easy to find hourly based ones. But if your nanny wants to quit (whom you like), try your best to make them stay.  And you can always get ayi to refer their friends for you.
On a final note, many ayi’s would take up to 20 days or even a month off during Chinese New Year. Make prior arrangements. But bear in mind that it’s very hard to find a temp because almost all ayi’s go back.

Those Curious Chinese

Jenny Zhu Posted in China, cultural differences, culture, life,Tags: , ,
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“It is said that ‘a cat has nine lives,’ yet curiosity would wear them all out,” wrote the Reverend Dr. Ebenezer Cobham Brewer in his 1898 Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. The same does not, however, seem to apply to the Shanghainese or the Chinese in general. They may only have one life, yet there are no signs of it being worn out by inquisitiveness. While curiosity is part of human nature – and what propels mankind forward – the Chinese seem more unrelentingly curious than most.

Crowds often gather in commotion over ‘chicken feather garlic skin’ (鸡毛蒜皮) a Chinese phrase which means insignificant triviality. Sometimes it’s a minor spat between two scooter riders, sometime it’s a vendor waving a big fruit knife and loudly yelling about cheap watermelons. It only takes a few people to reach critical mass to build a decent crowd. As soon as three people stop to watch something they seem to develop their own force of gravity, drawing others in.

So why the curiosity? The question warrants a complicated sociological study.  However, as a Chinese who inherited a heightened sense of curiosity, here is my take: the masses historically lacked affordable means of entertainment both in the country and the city. Most urban families didn’t even have a TV set until the late 1980s. Therefore, people have always looked for alternative sources of entertainment. Drama and fights on the street were a ready and reliable way to pass time. And perhaps more importantly, they provided people with something to talk about. Just as the social value of mass media is not really in the content but the conversations it generates, the most seasoned curious onlookers participate too by providing commentary and passing judgment. They often become mediators of the fight. Over time, this becomes a social obligation; they see themselves as community arbiters who need to be at the scene. They have elevated curiosity from a disposition to a duty.

There is also a demographic element to the curious crowd. They are usually middle-aged (especially retired), elderly or migrant workers. But I believe most Chinese are equally curious at heart, they just try to contain it so that they won’t seem nosy or appear to have nothing better to do with their lives. I myself can’t resist the temptation to briefly investigate when I see a crowd, but I always carry on with my own business and never stand there to watch.

Curiosity can be genuinely quaint, too. I was once on a flight to Singapore with a team of Chinese construction workers. Before the plane took off, one of them pulled the life jacket out from under his seat, blew it up and put it on. While the flight attendant angrily reprimanded him, I saw a man from rural China who, just like a child, was excited about his first plane trip. This is the kind of innocent curiosity that should be cherished.

Rust Belt Humor in China and America

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A few days ago, I overheard a fascinating discussion about Chinese and American sense of humor. While many concur that comparing the two are like comparing apples to oranges, there seems to be an amazing convergence, that of the Rust Belt, the Northeastern parts of both countries. They have produced the nations’ most celebrated comedians and helped shape the nation’s sense of humor. In China, the undisputed king of comedy is Zhao Benshan/赵本山 (pictured above with his disciple and sidekick) who has the noble task of entertaining the entire country on CCTV’s Spring Festival gala. He hails from a small town in China’s Rust Belt. Originally a local 二人转/errenzhuan performer ( a local comedy style that features 2 comedians performing), he exploded on the national stage with his comedy rooted in blue-collar and peasant wholesomeness but galvanized by sharp sarcasm directed at inequities in the society, a sentiment widely shared by China’s masses.

More on China’s Rust Belt. It refers to the region once known as Manchuria which now includes the provinces of Heilongjiang, Jiling and Liaoning. These places are marked by vast wilderness and punishing climate. They were also China’s heavy industry hub after the founding of the P.R.C. However, similar to the fate of America’s Rust Belt, China’s Dongbei (meaning Northeast) was in the doldrums in the early 90′s when large state owned firms underwent restructuring, throwing a large portion of the population out of work. However, the courageous people of Dongbei, with “their rustic manners and boisterous camaraderie—washed down with 120-proof grain alcohol—adapted the spirit to the 21st Century with new ways of thinking” (quote from the Nine Nations of China, the Atlantic).  And many of them turned to the grass root 二人转/errenzhuan comedy for inspiration. Song Xiaojun, China’s prominent cultural and military commentator (yes, that’s right) has said that unemployment and 二人转/errenzhuan performances peaked at the same time in Dongbei. His analysis was that comedy helped people get through the harsh times and also offered an idea for entrepreneurial attempts. Many who were blessed with the talent became amateur 二人转/errenzhuan performers, while others opened performance venues, now an important part of the region’s economy and cultural identity.

Would the same happen in America’s Rust Belt?

Halloween in China: Critical Mass?

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When Ken Carroll, my co-host at ChinesePod asked me in a Halloween related lesson whether people in China knew about the holiday, I said ‘no, the vast majority doesn’t’. It was in 2007. Come 2009, things have changed. Halloween/万圣节/wan4 sheng4 jie2 is set out to become the next big imported/commercialized holiday  in coastal China. While in the recent past, Halloween was only celebrated by expats dressing up in costumes that shocked and amused the Chinese, this year’s Halloween seems to have a lot of local flavors, which makes one wonder if it has reached critical mass in China. Here is the evidence: I received a multimedia message from China Mobile which featured a step by step guide to carving a Jack-O-Lantern; youngsters in Shanghai line up for hours to enter a Halloween themed haunted house; a local supermarket near my home which is frequented by young migrant workers is selling plastic pumpkins and scary masks. But in typical style of ‘festival adoption’ in China, hallmarks of the true Halloween spirit seem to be missing: crazy costumes and trick or treat.

China’s Own Luxury Industry (Guerrilla Style)

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In the spirit of honesty, let’s confess that we have all knowingly bought something fake in China (some argue that pirated movies don’t even count anymore). There are in fact malls dedicated to the trading of fake goods in China where tourists spend 20 dollars on the latest Louis Vuitton knockoff. The industry of making and selling fakes is big and sophisticated in China. There is a widely acknowledged grading system where A plus grade (超A货/chao1 A 货) claims to be almost identical to the real deal (don’t fall for the OEM trick. No LV or Gucci are made in China).  Those can set you back at 200-300 dollars a piece. The stuff that you see out in the open are generally low quality fakes marketed to innocent tourists who buy for fun rather than to pose as real.

The length that fake makers go to to fabricate luxury goods is worthy of mentioning. The craftsmanship, the attention to detail down to even the paper box that holds the fake is uncompromising. Only if they could apply the energy to elsewhere…

Now, the ‘fake industry’ has even moved up a further notch. News came out this week that some local ‘official sites’ of LV, Gucci, Chanel, etc have sprung up, of course with crazy domains like gucci.168.cn But some of them are so impressive visually that many consumers fall for the trick and spend thousands of RMB on a fake bag. I did a search on both google and baidu. It didn’t actually return any local fake versions of official sites. But I did saw sites that specialise in custom-made fake bags, i.e. you want a certain model of Chanel bag and one from Hermes, they have all the leather, fabric and metal hardware to assemble one for you. Now, this is taking fake making onto a new level. Sadly, this is something China is too good at.

ChinesePod, Post-80 Brat, Socialism

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Jenny Zhu is not your typical Shanghainese’. This is the caption of an interview I did with The Star, Malaysia’s largest English daily paper. Chow How Ban, the journalist who interviewed me had a keen interest to attest if I embody the wacky combination of being a Shanghainese girl, part of the only-child generation known for brattiness, and if I am a socialist. After one hour at the 50th floor in Bank of China’s headquarters in Lu Jiazui overlooking the Bund, he arrives at this conclusion.

How Ban asked me everything from my grandparents coming to Shanghai to ‘liberate’ the city with the PLA in 1949 to my work at ChinesePod. Not to sound self-important, but I think his wide-ranged questions showcased a personal story of  what China has gone through in the past few decades.

Here is the interview, Chinese Teacher to the World. There is also a video version of the interview which will be available in China when youtube is unblocked.

New Personal Venture, But Still and Always Part of ChinesePod

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Two months into 2009, after submitting more than a dozen of company names, domain registration and a ton of other work, I now have a start up!

Suixuntong (随训通) is my fledgling venture. It will be an enterprise learning network that brings together trainingc content, LMS (lesson management system) functions, learning tools and social collaboration. My experience at ChinesePod has made me an evangelist for making learning easier for everyone. Whether it is company, manager, staff or training content providers, they can use Suixuntong to make training more efficient and effective. The enterprise learning network will be built by April. Right now, Suixuntong helps companies produce and publish training content in digital media form, to make training on-demand, and cut down unnecessary time and money spent using traditional face to face training.

Since setting up Suixuntong, I have received tons of kind help from ChinesePod users who are involved in training. They’ve given me invaluable suggestions and introducing me to great people. As a young start up, those kind of help is something I will remember and be grateful for for a life time.

Also since setting up my business, I have been asked by a few fellow Poddies whether I would still be on ChinesePod. Yes, very positively so. I’m not cutting down my involvement or commitment to it. In fact, I hope I’ll always be part of one of the greatest learning solutions out there. Ken, John, myself and Poddies all want to keep improving ChinesePod, especially after doing 1000 lessons, the challenge and opportunities are more exciting than ever.

Frankly speaking, I didn’t think I would start my own business. But I’ve always wanted to keep growing professionally and personally. Starting a business is not an easy way of doing it. But it is all the more enjoyable because of it. Best of all, reinventing learning is where my passion is.

Jenny on 56minus1.com

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If you want to look into China’s vibrant present and unpredictable future, 56minus1.com is worth a visit. It’s a blog run by Adam Schokora, which centers around China’s edgy, vibrant and creative youth culture. Adam is a good friend who spends his day at PR agency Edelman, but is also a keen observer of China’s youth culture, subculture and digital culture. You might already be familiar with his video pieces on danwei.org. Again, for things that often slip under the radar, you can’t miss his work. He’s covered things like Shanghai’s gay culture and graffitti community.

Adam recently interviewed me for 56minus1.com. He asked some brilliant questions that took me an entire weekend to ponder. But he kicked off the interview with something gossipy.

Enjoy!  http://56minus1.com/2008/11/chats-jenny-zhu/

China’s New Style of Public Policies

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I received a gift from the Shanghai government yesterday. A small plastic spoon designed to help moderate people’s salt intake for health benefits. The spoon holds 2 grams of salt. On the package it advises that 3 spoons of salt a day keeps the doctors away. (well, not the second part). So now every Shanghai resident can measure and try to stick to the 6 gram optimal intake. I find it to be a very good preventive measure, also a delightful surprise that epitomizes the shifting paradigm of policy making in China, which is in general more long term thinking and humanistic.

The salt spoon also reminds me of an episode of Open Source, in which a political professor said policy design has a lot to learn from product design. The latter inherently ackowledges human flaws and irrationalities, therefore is designed around those to avoid likely pitfalls. Take a spoon for an example, its shape and material are selected to give us convenience and safety. Policy making on the other hand largely assumes intelligence and rationality of human being, which explains a lot failed results. The subprime fiasco offers a good example. The spoon seems like a case of the merge of product and policy design; An example of China’s improving policy making. But some things such as awkward slogans change more slowly. The package also proudly reads ‘healthy Shanghai World Expo, healthy Shanghai.’

Being a Cover Girl

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Thanks to the popularity of ChinesePod, I was featured on the cover of That’s Shanghai’s July issue http://shanghai.urbanatomy.com/thatssh/detail.cfm?aid=1779 . The magazine is the quintessential survival guide to Shanaghai life and so much beyond. It gets under the skin of the city just like its tagline promises. http://shanghai.urbanatomy.com/thatssh/

JFK Miller, editor in chief for That’s interviewed me. Despite the catchy name (which is his real given name), JFK hails from down under. Mick Ryan was behind the camera. He captures the life and light of his object. (Also made my legs look 10 times longer) www.mickryan.com. Big thanks to them. 

Poddies, hope you enjoy the photos and the article! And thank you for putting me on the cover in the first place.